Ritz Carlton Drive-by

 

The drive-by tour of the projected Ritz-Carlton was submitted by Five Star Development in response to a request by the Town Council for a 3-D virtual reality presentation.

The drive-by route begins at Scottsdale Road heading west on Lincoln Drive.

Observe:

·        Duplexes are not shown.  A lot of shrubbery is.

·        Mountainous background is nowhere to be seen.

·        Short sections of view fence are seen between the much longer sections of solid wall. 

·        Background to the north has been omitted; it is not possible to see how much of the mountains will be obscured by the buildings.  There are no two story buildings in the rendering.

·        The resort signs at the entrance are shown but not the new proposed traffic signal.

·        The existing traffic light at the intersection of Lincoln and Mockingbird is not seen although the tour makes a right turn heading north up Mockingbird.  Again, neither mountains to the northeast, nor homes on the west side of Mockingbird are displayed.  The relative impact on neighbors to the west is not demonstrated.

·        The route turns right, heading east on Indian Bend.  Only the one-house-per-acre construction is visible.  The duplexes on the east end of the project are not in the video.

 

ClickRitz-Carlton Drive-by Video

 

POP e-mail written 3/7/2008 as follows:

 

Hi Neighbors,
The Town Council requested that Five Star Development submit a 3D Virtual depiction of what the Ritz-Carlton project would look like when driving by.

You may view the video by going to:

http://pvpop.org/Ritz-Carlton%20drive-by.htm

click on Ritz-Carlton Drive-by Video

        Frank Lloyd Wright: "The physician can bury his mistakes, but the architect can only advise his clients to plant more vines."

Mel for POP

 

Responses

agree this video does nothing but show you the nice landscaping next to the street.  You have no idea as to the massing of any of the structures.  You have no idea if the development has provided any view corridors.  Someone wasted their money on this video. 

Also, why isn’t there an entry off Mockingbird?  Has a traffic impact analysis been done for the development?  The main commercial access should be off Scottsdale, while the residential accesses should be off Indian Bend and Mockingbird.                  Larry

OK   I viewed the drive by video.  They are showing a lot of planting to hide the architecture.

If it is built with all this planting, it may be OK.

The treatment of the corner at Mockingbird/Lincoln, with the "light triangle" with fountains and stuff is superior to the nightmare on Tatum/Lincoln.

The entries are nicely set back.

But truly, the driveby is only one aspect. Can they be asked to morph this into an aerial that we can zoom into?

Keep on it Mel.  Thanks                  Berny

 

Mr. Kowal: Thanks for the link to the Ritz-Carlton drive-by video. It's very unsatisfactory. Apart from the huge omissions you've noted, the video is a tunnel-vision driver's view of the road and not the property; the makers seem to have put all their effort into depicting roadside landscaping.

 

Frankly, I'm insulted by this video. What would you suggest? Should I express my annoyance to the PV Town Council? Individually? In your opinion, what's the more effective communication; email or a letter?    Thanks. Keep up the effort.    David

VIDEO DOES NOT SHOW DESIGN OF RESORT BUILDINGS, SET-BACKS, ELEVATIONS, ETC.

 

THE ONLY THING THAT IS DISPLAYED IS ALOT OF MEDIOCRE LANDSCAPING.  ANOTHER PARADISE VALLEY DISGRACE.  VERY MUCH IN KEEPING OF THE STANDARD OF THE MONTE LUCIA DISASTER.

 

HOPEFULLY THIS WILL NOT BE APPROVED.

 

BTW:  IS MOUNTAIN SHADOWS DEAD IN THE WATER ~~~  WE SOON SHALL HAVE 3 MAJOR SIMUTANEOUS RESORT COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION DISASTERS.  EACH OF WHICH WILL BE UNCOMPLETED.

 

~~~ WHICH HAVE DECIMATED THE CHARM & AMBIENCE OF PARADISE VALLEY.           J

 

This is appalling.  Some town council members seem to have indicated we are trapped by Prop 207 and as a community would suffer if we blocked what Five Star wants to do.  Is this true?  It would appear that the resort aspect is a minor part of the project, to sweep in high density.  Is there no way to block this, or could we be taken, as we were with Montelucia?  Sorry I'm going to be out of the country for a month, but I doubt there's anything I could do if I were in the country.  Thank you for your vigilance,--Hugh

 

 

In other words, the same old (B.S) baloney they used at Lincoln & Tatum.  No information about the effect of hundreds of  homes on tiny lots, traffic, spoiled open space views.  Another portion of Paradise destroyed.

 When we go past the condos at Tatum and Lincoln, I have learned to look the other way but then I can see the tears in Goldwater's eyes.           Joe & Helen

 

 

That drive-by video is virtually useless.  About all it shows is a good view of the street (roadway).      Ron

 

 

I agree.  It does appear that they (conveniently) left out the duplexes, the main hotel and other high density areas.  Also, there isn't much in the video to show how views of mountains are blocked.  It would be nice to see a couple of stills of aerial views of the whole property with the backgrounds included.      Thanks,    Blain

 

Thanks for all your good work Mel. It is appreciated.

Number of  units per acre SHOULD BE SCALED DOWN.  /Also the whole question of South bound traffic at Mockingbird and Lincoln HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED!!

In the A.M., without a right turn lane, the congestion and delays are terrible.   Either the whole of Mockingbird should be moved to the East and a slight curve incorporated for the straight ahead traffic OR a right turn lane should be made available by using the public/private (?) land which is on the NW corner.   To go ahead with plans and admit that the traffic has not been considered  (as we have been told) is ludicrous.  Thanks.           Mary

 

They need to show without vegetation!!          John

 

 

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